The Shocking Ingredients In Beer

I have to confess, I’m not a beer drinker, but there’s someone in my household that loves it, so I had to figure out the truth. Is beer really healthy? Why are the ingredients not listed on the label? Which brands can we trust? Which brands are trying to slowly poison us with cheap and harmful ingredients? All of these questions were going through my head at once at lightning speed. So a year ago, I started to research what was really in beer and after questioning several beer companies, reading books about food science, and talking to experts, the information I discovered was downright shocking.

I see it all the time. Someone who eats organic, makes the right choices at the grocery store, is fit and lives an extraordinarily healthy lifestyle but then drinks beer like it is going out of style.

Caring about what you eat doesn’t necessarily translate into caring about what you drink and this is a HUGE MISTAKE.

Before we get into what exactly is in beer that you should be worried about, let’s talk about how body reacts to alcohol in general.

Alcohol is metabolized by the body differently than all other calories you consume. Alcohol is one of the only substances that you consume that can permeate your digestive system and go straight into your bloodstream. It bypasses normal digestion and is absorbed into the body intact, where it goes straight into the liver.

Your liver is your main fat-burning organ. If you are trying to lose weight or even maintain your ideal weight, drinking alcohol is one of your worst enemies. The liver is going to metabolize alcohol first vs. the fat you want to get rid of – making weight loss even harder. Additionally, one of the primary functions of the liver is to remove environmental toxins from your body – if it is overtaxed with alcohol, the normal removal of these toxins becomes extremely diminished and can result in rapid aging, loss of libido, and other diseases.

The one thing that has gotten me before and I’m sure many of you – is the health marketing claims on alcohol products making drinking them seem like a good idea and an added “benefit” to your health. The low alcohol content of beer makes it appear as an innocuous beverage and something people throw back without even thinking about it. Who hasn’t seen those studies that say a beer a day is great for you (I want to ask who ever stops at just one beer?)?

 

So, inherently, alcohol by itself is not a healthy person’s best friend – but that’s just the tip of the iceberg.  Beer, especially American beer, is made with all sorts of ingredients beyond the basic hops, malt and yeast. There are numerous other ingredients used to clarify, stabilize, preserve, enhance the color and flavor of beer.

When you drink beer, there is almost a 100% chance that you don’t know what you are drinking (unless you quizzed the beer companies like I did). The ingredients in beer are not required by law to be listed anywhere on the label and manufacturers have no legal obligation to disclose the ingredients. For regular beer, calorie levels and percent alcohol are optional and for light beer calories are mandatory but alcohol levels are optional.

Michele Simon, a public health lawyer, author of Appetite for Profit, and president of Eat Drink Politics told me the reason that beer companies don’t disclose ingredients is simple: they don’t have to.

“Ingredient labeling on food products and non-alcoholic beverages is required by the Food and Drug Administration. But a whole other federal agency regulates beer, and not very well. The Department of Treasury – the same folks who collect your taxes – oversees alcoholic beverages. That probably explains why we know more about what’s in a can of Coke than a can of Bud. You can also thank the alcohol industry, which has lobbied for years against efforts to require ingredient labeling.”

I figured if the beer companies aren’t required to tell us the exact list of ingredients, I needed to investigate this for myself and asked them the pointed questions until I got the truth.

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First of all, I was able to obtain a baseline list of “legal” additives allowed in beer from the book “Chemicals Additives in Beer” by the Center of Science and Public Interest. This list allowed me to ask specific questions about each beer I investigated. For example – beer sold here in America can contain several of the following ingredients:

  • Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) –  alcohol is already addictive with some people, but with MSG?! Holy smokes.

  • Propylene Glycol (an ingredient found in anti-freeze)

  • Calcium Disodium EDTA (made from formaldehyde, sodium cayanide, and Ethylenediamine)

  • Many different types of sulfites and anti-microbial preservatives (linked to allergies and asthma)

  • Natural Flavors (can come from anything natural including a beavers anal gland)

  • High Fructose Corn Syrup

  • GMO Sugars – Dextrose, Corn Syrup

  • Caramel Coloring (Class III or IV made from ammonia and classified as a carcinogen)

  • FD&C Blue 1 (Made from petroleum, linked to allergies, asthma and hyperactivity)

  • FD&C Red 40 (Made from petroleum, linked to allergies, asthma and hyperactivity)

  • FD&C Yellow 5 (Made from petroleum, linked to allergies, asthma and hyperactivity)

  • Insect-Based Dyes: carmine derived from cochineal insects to color their beer.

  • Animal Based Clarifiers: Findings include isinglass (dried fish bladder), gelatin (from skin, connective tissue, and bones), and casein (found in milk)

  • Foam Control: Used for head retention; (glyceryl monostearate and pepsin are both potentially derived from animals)

  • BPA (Bisphenol A is a component in many can liners and it may leach into the beer. BPA can mimic the female hormone estrogen and may affect sperm count, and other organ functions.)

  • Carrageenan (linked to inflammation in digestive system, IBS and considered a carcinogen in some circumstances)

During my investigation, I couldn’t get a single mainstream beer company to share the full list of ingredients contained in their beer. But I did get some of them to fess up to the use of these ingredients in writing so I’m going to share this information with you now.

Carcinogenic Caramel Coloring

Newcastle, a UK brand, confessed to using what I would consider one of the most controversial food additives. Toasted barley is usually what gives beer its golden or deep brown color, however in this case, Newcastle beer is also colored artificially with caramel color. This caramel coloring is manufactured by heating ammonia and sulfites under high pressure, which creating carcinogenic compounds. If beer companies were required by law to list the ingredients, Newcastle would likely have to have a cancer warning label under California law because it is a carcinogen proven to cause liver tumors, lung tumors, and thyroid tumors in rats and mice.

Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs)

Many of the beers I questioned contained one or more possible GMO ingredients.

  • High Fructose Corn Syrup (Guinness – unable to provide an affidavit for non-GMO proof)
  • Corn syrup (Miller Light, Coors, Corona, Fosters, Pabst Blue Ribbon, Red Stripe)
  • Dextrose (Budweiser, Bud Light, Busch Light, Michelob Ultra)
  • Corn (Red Stripe, Miller Coors Brand, Anheuser-Busch Brands)

Most beers brewed commercially are made with more GMO corn than barley. Many of the companies I contacted dodged the GMO question – however Miller Coors had a very forthcoming and honest response. They stated “Corn syrup gives beer a milder and lighter-bodied flavor” and “Corn syrups may be derived from a mixture of corn (conventional and biotech.)”, admitting their use of GMOs.

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Pabst Blue Ribbon responded saying their corn syrup was “special” and “made of carbohydrates and some simple sugars like dextrose and maltose.  The sugars are fermented into alcohol and CO2, and the carbohydrates, both from the corn syrup and the malt, remain in the beers as flavor, color and body components.”

Dextrose and maltose can come from a variety of substances that are sweet, but likely are derived from GMO corn because it is super cheap for a company to use corn instead of fruit or other non-GMO sources. With cheap beer – you are not just getting a cheap buzz, you are getting the worst of the worst.  Just like with cheap fast food – if you don’t invest in your beer – you will be drinking a lower quality product like Pabst Blue Ribbon that is made from GMO Corn and Corn Syrup.

In 2007, Greenpeace found unapproved and experimental GMO Rice strain in Anheuser-Busch (Budweiser, Bud Light) beer. Anheuser-Busch responded saying their US-grown long-grained rice “may have micro levels” of a genetically engineered protein called Liberty Link, but added that the protein is “substantially removed or destroyed” during the brewing of beer sold domestically. Don’t you think it’s hard to trust any beer company that gets caught using experimental food made in a laboratory? GMOs have not been tested long term on human beings and one of the main pesticides (Roundup) they spray on GMO crops are linked to inflammation, cancer and other diseases. 

Guinness

High Fructose Corn Syrup & Fish Bladders

Speaking of trusting companies, let’s get one thing straight, Guinness beer is no longer owned by the Irish, they are now owned by a large beer conglomerate called Diageo and manufactured in over 50 different countries. No matter how many St. Patty’s Day celebrations you’ve had with this dark stout, it’s time to stop because they use high fructose corn syrup in their beer (4/2/14 Update: Guinness Beer claims they do not use high fructose corn syrup any longer, but refuses to disclose ingredient affidavits or full of list of ingredients.) But, Guinness beer also contains isinglass, a gelatin-like substance produced from the swim bladder of a fish. This ingredient helps remove any “haziness,” solids, or yeast byproducts from the beer. Mmmmm… fish bladder sounds delicious, doesn’t? The sneaky thing this beer company does like many of the companies mentioned here today is create an illusion of using the best ingredients when in actuality what they tell you publicly on their websites is a complete farce. On Guinness FAQ’s – they have a question that states: “What are the key ingredients in Guinness” and the answer doesn’t reveal the whole picture – it only states “Our key ingredients – other than inspiration – are roasted, malted barley, hops, yeast and water.” What BS, right?  You have to call, email, question and know the right things to ask to even have a chance at getting the truth. This is insanity.

So What Beers Are Additive and GMO Free?

If you enjoy the occasional beer and wish to maintain your healthy lifestyle, choosing one without GMOs and additives is ideal. Unfortunately, most of the mainstream beers available have additives, but luckily, there are a few that don’t. For example, Sierra Nevada, Heineken, and Amstel Light (7/31/13 UPDATE: It has come to my attention that Heinken USA has changed their formula to use GMOs – I called their customer service line 1-914-681-4100 to confirm and asked for the list of ingredients – the man told me “water, yeast, malted barley and hops” – then I asked if their beer contained any genetically engineered material and he confirmed “YES,” but wouldn’t tell me what ingredients are genetically engineered. They recently changed their formula after my initial research that started in late 2012.) (8/1/13 Update: Heineken reached out to me personally to say their customer service department made an error in telling me and others who called their beer has GMOs. I met with a head brew master and have viewed affidavits from the company and confirmed Heinken and Amstel Light do not contain GMOs – they apologize for the confusion.) appear to be pretty clean (but these companies still wouldn’t disclose the full list of ingredients to me. They did say they use non-GMO grains, no artificial ingredients, stabilizers or preservatives).

German Beers are also a good bet. The Germans are very serious about the purity of their beers and enacted a purity law called “Reinheitsgebot” that requires all German beers to be only produced with a core ingredient list of water, hops, yeast, malted barley or wheat. Advocates of German beers insist that they taste cleaner and some even claim they don’t suffer from hangovers as a result.

An obvious choice to consider is also Certified Organic Beers. They are required by law to not include GMOs and other harmful additives. Organic beers also support environmental friendly practices and reduce the amount of pesticides and toxins in our air, support organic farmers – which is a huge plus. (To this day, the beer drinkers in my family haven’t found one they love so if you have suggestions, please let us know in the comments!)

Craft & Microbrews Beers – For certain local craft and micro beers, you can ask those companies for a list of ingredients and many of them will be up front with you. However, companies like Miller Coors are slowly closing in on craft beers and buying them up one by one… like they did when they created the unique popular variety called Blue Moon (the beer you drink with an orange) and Anhesuer-Busch did this with Rolling Rock and Goose Island Brewery. Make sure your favorite craft and microbrew is still independently owned and controlled before taking a sip.

In the end – if you decide to drink beer, you are definitely drinking at your own risk for more reasons than just the crazy ingredients that could be in them. The key point to remember is – if you like to drink beer and want to be healthy, drink it infrequently and quiz the beer companies for the truth. Find a beer that you can trust and stick with it.

For your reference, here are some important questions to ask your favorite beer company:

  1. What are the ingredients in your beer – all of them from start to finish?

  2. Are any of your ingredients GMO?

  3. Do you use any soy, corn, or rice processing ingredients? (Examples include: dextrose, corn syrup, etc.)

  4. Do you add any natural, artificial flavors or colors to the beer? (Examples include:  yellow #5, caramel coloring, red #40, MSG, natural flavors)

  5. Are there any additional preservatives, stabilizers and/or clarifying agents added to your beer during processing? (Examples include: propylene glycol, Calcium Disodium EDTA, anything ending in “sulfite” like sodium metabisulfite, Heptylparaben, isinglass)

If you know someone who drinks beer – share this post with them.

These ingredients are no joke. We must inform and protect each other from these industrial chemicals, untested and potentially harmful ingredients and it starts by sharing your knowledge with the ones you love.

Bottoms up!

Food Babe

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1,352 Responses to “The Shocking Ingredients In Beer”

  1. Peter

    Watch out for many store-bought, ready-made Ice Tea’s. Many have less real tea and more flavorings and caramel.

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  2. A Safe Bet

    Thanks for all your diligent research it is very informative. Tell your husband to try any of the beers by EEL RIVER they are a 100% certified organic brewery in the US and they make delicious beer. Try the Pale Ale or the golden Ale. He will definitely enjoy them.

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    • Britton (to A Safe Bet)

      Thanks for the heads up! Making note of this brewery :)

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    • Lori Walker (to A Safe Bet)

      I’ve never seen of heard of this brand;. where is it from/manufactured?

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      • Jennifer (to Lori Walker)

        They are in a small, rural town in northern California where I lived as a kid, near the Redwoods. Beautiful place! Check out their website here: eelriverbrewing.com.

  3. Ned

    Solution: brew your own beer. See, problem solved!

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    • Derek (to Ned)

      This would be the most ideal scenerio, but myself and most of the population can’t afford to brew their own beer. It’s a very expensive hobby.

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      • Robert (to Derek)

        Brewing your own beer is “NOT” more expensive than buying it off the store shelf. It is the same cost or cheaper(depending on what you are brewing of course).
        It costs me $35-40 for a 24-pack of what I like to drink(mostly craft beers and imports) and it costs about that to brew 2-24 packs at home. So about half the price. What it does cost you is the initial investment in the equipment needed for brewing and, of course, time.

      • Frank (to Derek)

        It’s cheaper than buying beer

      • jim (to Derek)

        depending on what a dollarnd how much you drink, home brews are far cheaper. the cost of initial setup with quickly be offset compared to buying 11, 13 dollar 6packs and 14, 16 four packs.

    • Lori Walker (to Ned)

      Unless you use organic products, brewing your own beer will not solve the problem.

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    • David (to Ned)

      Even home brewers use corn sugar, carrageenan (in the form or Irish Moss) and/or eisenglass.

      The thing with the last two is that they are used to help protein solids (that cause chill haze) coagulate…..and drop out of suspension. You then siphon the beer off the trub and leave the proteins and eisenglass / Irish moss behind.

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  4. LeeLor

    So do we now know what’s in Blue Moon? The miller nutrition site (http://www.millercoors.com/our-beers/nutrition-facts-codes.aspx) does not list any corn product in Blue Moon, while other sites claim corn or corn syrup is in the beer. I don’t know what to believe…

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  5. junbug20

    You don’t want to know what’s in treated water, I like Heineken because they use reverse osmosis process for there beer, I don’t suffer hangovers with it.

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  6. Jane

    I go by the German purity law, when it comes to beer, thus most American beer does not qualify. I have a bone to pick with Beck USA, who claims it follows the German recipe. Beck USA uses fluoridated municipal water to make its beer, thus violating the German purity law. Germany does not fluoridate its water supply, thus German beer has no added fluoride.

    I would be surprised if AB disclosed the presence of fluoride in its beer. Check http://www.fluoridealert.org for the widespread prevalence of fluoride in the USA food and beverage industry.

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    • pristie (to Jane)

      The German Purity Law was a protectionistic measure. It has nothing to do with purity. This law WAS only valid for one type of beer.
      Plain, boring pilsner type beers come from this Reinheitsgebot beer.

      Indeed, there is no fluor added to the German water supply.

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      • marlyc (to pristie)

        The German Purity law is still in effect. It was modified in 1993 to include sugar and yeast besides the original water, malted barley and hops. By law they are only allowed to use these pure ingredients. There are beers in Germany that are not strictly following the law when they brew with wheat (wheat beer). But this law applies to the purity of beers brewed and consumed in Germany, not to exports. Many exports will have preservatives. The criticism of protectionism comes from other countries that want to export beers with Rice or Corn to Germany, which is prohibited by the Reinheitsgebot. Unfortunately, there is nothing comparable to have a nice cold pure beer in Germany. Prost!

      • marlyc (to pristie)

        I’ve never tasted a boring German beer yet, and Pils is just one style of German beer. The flavored additive laden beers in the US are terrible. There are some purer ones here now, and the industry has come a long way better craft and local beers. No flouride in the water and non-GMO EU standards are quite a benefit. Prost!

      • SubCapt (to pristie)

        @Marlyc. The 1516 text only ever covered a tiny bit of Germany. It was relayed in 1551 to include other ingedients, namely coriander and laurel, and then repealed in 1616 to be replaced by a text that allowed coriander, laurel, salt, caraway and juniper. So that 1516 text is not in force anymore.
        What is in more or less in force in Germany is a 1993 ordinance, with its roots gong back to protectionist bavarian legislation which dug out the Reiheitsgebot idea, notably altering it to include yeast, and “barley” being replaced by “malt”, in the 1860s to ward off competition from the rest of Germany, and from the neighbouring Austrian Empire.
        The current version of that text allows hop extracts, clarifying agents if they can be removed mechanically, sugar in top-fermented beers, and allows for exceptions when beer is produced for export.
        It therefore does not give consumers any solid guarantee, and is a misleading claim when it refers to the 1516, since yeast is added, whereas it was not mentioned then.

  7. mike1983

    Drink German Beer it tastes good and the Reinheitsgebot is a law !!! check it out

    GERMANY”S PURITY LAW
    http://brewery.org/library/ReinHeit.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinheitsgebot

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    • sp0rk (to mike1983)

      No it’s not a law (anymore), it was only ever a tax move, and it was on pilsners for the most part (boring beers ahoy)
      Read your own links ;)

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      • AlexFromGER (to sp0rk)

        pils? boring beer? amateure !

      • JoeSixpack (to sp0rk)

        I love good ole ‘merican Lager like Bud

  8. Rory

    Peak Organic Brewery has something like 20 different breweries and they’re ALL organic! Only beer I drink.

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  9. ben

    Question for the experts: Just called one of my favorite beer companies (Yuengling beer) and questioned their quality control office with the question list from this article. They stated that the DO NOT use GMO products and DO NOT contain any of the additives listed on this website. How reliable is this information from them? Love this website by the way, keep up the great work.

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    • JoeSixPack (to ben)

      no, they use weasel piss instead

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      • Terry (to JoeSixPack)

        If you can’t say anything constructive it is better to say nothing. Yuengling is excellent beer and is still a family owned operation as compared to the many megabrewaries out there!!!

  10. Willy Johnson

    Waterway Brewing Company in Pfafftown, NC uses only the natural ingredients of Water, Barley, Hops and Yeast to produce their delicious selections of small-batch hand-crafted beers.

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  11. Daniel

    Found an excellent tasting Organic Beer and it’s light too!!! Mill St. Original Organic. I wrote them and here’s what they had to say.

    Hi Daniel,

    Our Original Organic Lager (and new 100th Meridian Organic Amber Lager) are made to Canadian Organic Regime standards and as such they contain no GMO’s. In fact we don’t use any GMO’s anywhere in our production and never will. The ingredients are water, certified organic malt barley, certified organic hops and certified non-GMO derived lactic acid (this comes in from the European Union to make sure that the lactic acid producing bacteria are not fed GMO corn syrup as part of the process). Let me know if you have any more questions Daniel and thanks for writing and supporting our brewery.
    Cheers,
    Joel

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  12. Nicolas

    Is there ANY brewery not using modified malts? Everyone is making a fuss about the corn syrup while the main and most important ingredient is most likely a GMO already.

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  13. John

    My beer of choice has, for the last 20 or so years has been “Pilsner Urquelle”. It is made in Czechoslovakia. As I live in Canada, it must be imported. I don’t know what’s in it, but it has a nice hop finish to it. That’s my 2 cents…

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  14. Stephanie

    Honestly, what the hell is wrong with fish bladder? It’s organic.

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    • Leif (to Stephanie)

      There is absolutely nothing wrong with fish bladder, or Isinglass as it is called and most are left out of the bottled (or kegged) product, as it will sink to the bottom of the tank as sediment.
      What Isinglass (and probably any gelatin/collagen from whatever source) is doing in beer is that it is highly flocculating agent that is binding the yeast and other small particles helping clearing the beer (and wine, as it is also used in wine production) while slowly sinking thru the liquid.
      I have heard that some have used egg whites to do the same, but I am not able to validate how it works

      It is mainly in the production of craft beer, and industrial beers that not necessarily have to 100% clear that you use Isinglass, as most of the mainstream industrial beers are filtered by other methods that are removing even more of the taste from the beer.

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  15. CAM

    Dear Food Babe, do you certify that all pictures are you are 100% unretouched?

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  16. roger franklin

    why is beer so bad for gout

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    • Rob (to roger franklin)

      It contains a lot of purines, which create the uric acid that causes gout.

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  17. Rob

    I live in Canada and I only drink German beer. The last time I was in the US I made the mistake of buying Becks, thinking it was impoted from Germany. It turned out it was brewed in St. Louis. It didn’t taste anything like the imported Becks we get here in Canada – it was more like 7-UP and obviously a US version of a good beer. It was the worst beer ever. So, I then bought Peroni instead which was imported and tasted real.

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  18. Gentleman

    For those of you who keep arguing with the disinformation trolls, it is important to be able to recognize the astroturfers, disinformation stooges etc.- read up: The Gentleman’s Guide to Forum Spies, etc. http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5 . When you can readily identify one (Sia and Eric above are great examples) post the above link with a comment “Nice example of Hit & Run” Not only do you refute their obvious bias, but you wake others up to the fact there are paid disinfo agents out there. Cheers!

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  19. Susan

    how about Genesee Beer? We drink Genesee Lite, now we wonder what we are drinking. Can you help with that one?

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  20. Caitlin

    Could anybody tell me anything about lagers in the UK? I have always thought German beers were cleaner, whether it is a ‘law’ or not, I just want to know if the UK bypass it to add unnecessary health harming ingredients in their imported German beers. Any advice on the following would also be greatly appreciated.

    Some of the most famous brands are Carling, Carlsberg, Stella Artois, Estrella, Heineken, Beck’s, Fosters and Peroni.

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    • Americangrl (to Caitlin)

      Stella Artois is not German, but Belgium. It’s distributed by Anheuser-Busch.

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      • Leif (to Americangrl)

        Sure Stella Artois is Belgian, but it is not just distributed by the former Anheuser-Busch but owned by AB InBev or sometimes Anheuser-Busch InBev, as the Belgian/Brazilian company InBev changed it’s name to when they acquired Anheuser-Busch.

    • Americangrl (to Caitlin)

      And Foster’s is Australian, Peroni is Italian.

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  21. Rand

    DOH!

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  22. Darla

    About two years ago I wrote the FDA about the lack of labeling on all alcoholic drinks.( Compare the info on alcohol containing egg nog and margarita mix and non-alcoholic egg nog and margarita mix!!….what is “specially sweetened wine?……) Their answer was: everything in those drinks is food grade! I wrote Dr. Mercola, who has a health website, hoping he would jump on the bandwagon with all his followers…nope. .I think that because of the judgement on alcoholic drinks it is hard to get people to jump up (“if you get sick, it is your own fault” attitude) I also think that stuff like MSG is added to aggravate the tongue – which is its action – so that you get thirstier and drink more………I am allergic to MSG and have had occasions where a beer would cause my mouth to break out with blisters. like a couple of days ago with a “Bush classic “nothing artificial added” . MSG comes from natural sources….There are some more websites that mention all possible chemicals and toxins created and added during the process. Thank you for doing what you are doing!!!! We have the right to know what we are putting into our bodies!

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  23. Gabbie

    Would adding one of the water ‘purifiers’ to your faucet get rid of (or diminish) flouride like it (is supposed to) get rid of other impurities???

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  24. Paul

    PRE-DIABETIC. I went to my doctor 2 times in past 5 months. The first time I was warned that my cholesterl and blood surgar numbers were high, so I needed to change my diet. I went on a low carb high fat diet, and I changed from a regular beer to lite beer.. The second time I went to my doctor he was please to tell me that my cholestoral level when way down (due to low carb, high fat diet), yet my blood sugar was still high; which didnt make sense to me because read labels and stayed away from all sugars.

    I would later learn that my favorite lite beer had high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), yet NO WHERE on the label did it say it had high fructose corn syrup – why not?

    The only thing that the labet says is that it contains water, hops, and barley. That’s it.

    False advertising. I warn you, don’t let this happen to you. Stay away from beers that contain HFCS as they could lead to high blood surgar and diabetes.

    I immediately stopped drinking lite beer, in fact, I switched to organic wine. I read the studies that suggest that red wine helps reduce blood sugars – wish me luck.

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    • Pat (to Paul)

      I highly suggest that you switch over to an all organic diet, including beer, because almost all conventional foods have HFCS in them along with a myriad of other chemicals. That’s the reason most diets don’t work and people just keep gaining weight and getting sicker and sicker. Besides, who would rather pay? The doctor or the farmer??? Look up Dr. Tent on YouTube…great stuff!

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  25. Jennifer

    Samuel Smith has some of the best organic beer i’ve ever tasted. http://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/
    I love beer but i have severe allergies and most alcoholic drinks make my allergies act up. By act up, i mean it is unbareable! Organic beers are usually the exception. Samuel Smith’s Chocolate Stout is amazing! A must try for Stout and Chocolate lovers alike.
    Also, i really love Dogfish head. It is a small brewery in Delaware and it can be a little tough to find, and a little pricey but it’s well worth it. They use mostly organic when it is available.
    http://www.dogfish.com/

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  26. Steve Marquis

    Thank you for an interesting article. Puzzled about the very old ingredient Isinglass (derived from fish swim bladders) used as finings for clearing beer. What is exactly wrong with it? Does it make you ill? What’s the risk? They are used to clear real (or craft) beer and drag the sediment to the bottom of the barrel. They are not consumed as they hold the sediment.
    Cheers from the UK

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  27. Dennis O'Hagan

    There is some misleading info in your bit about Guinness.

    First, while certain varieties are made in breweries throughout the world, any draught Guinness (whether that be from the tap, or Guinness Draught in bottles and cans) sold in Ireland, UK, and US comes directly from St. James Gate in Dublin. Other Guinness varieties, such as Guinness Foreign Extra Stout, is made elsewhere and always has been (Foreign Extra was originally brewed for the somewhat different taste preferences of those in Southeast Asia and northern Africa, which is where it is made).

    Second, “fish bladder” isn’t an ingredient in the beer, per se, it is a substance that is used in the filtering process. The isinglass remains in the vat after the beer is filtered. Yes, it is possible that microscopic trace amounts could remain in the beer (like single ppm) but this is like arguing that your banana is radioactive because bananas (and everything on Earth) has a certain amount of radioactivity. BTW, isinglass is also commonly used with wine production as well (especially in the production of Kosher wines, which require it’s use). It is also useful to note that the use of isinglass is actually the NATURAL way to filter these beverages… some larger brands have done away with isinglass in favor of synthetic/chemical filtration alternatives… which would you prefer? I’ll risk knowing there might be one or two parts per million of isinglass in my pint, thank you very much!

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  28. Drew in Canada

    Warsteiner Beer (my new favorite beer) from Germany has just confirmed to me on their FB page that their beers do NOT contain any GMO’s.

    ingredients: Water, Barley Malt and Hop Extract…That’s it.

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  29. bob

    Good to be old. do you want to live forever. all this is sad and depressing.

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  30. Theresa

    I am extremely sensitive to MSG, such that just a teaspoon of soup with MSG in it will cause a 3-day migraine. About 12 -1 5 months ago, I went from being able to drink a great many beers with no real problem, to not being able to touch the stuff without getting a 3-day migraine. Even a sip – nearly every beer would cause this terrible reaction. I researched (interweb) and found thousands of other people posting the same problem – they used to drink beer with no problem, and now get violently ill. I suspect MSG is present in many beers now, simply because of this severe reaction. If so, and the brewers notice the forums on this subject, maybe they will remove the worst offenders in the manufacturing process. In the meantime, I feel pretty good in health, and mostly glad I can’t touch beer. But that occasional test sip calls, and sometimes I answer, and then I pay. Darn.

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  31. mark palermo

    I tried contacting several beer makers to get information about ingredients. Nobody wanted to tell me what is in their beer- except for Sierra Nevada Ale. They were very helpful and eager to answer my questions. So that’s what i drink now- as fr as the rest go- if they won’t even tell me what’s in their beer, I won’t drink any it. What ever happened to people taking pride in what they make?

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  32. Alex A.

    Whew! I thought you were going to name good beer on this list. Since you only listed crap beer, the type served at baseball games and frat parties, I’m good!

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  33. Fanny

    Arcleits like this are an example of quick, helpful answers.

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  34. isaiah64one@yahoo.com (to )

    Actually – yes, that is true. Fluoride can & has been used to keep people apathetic/docile. But it isn’t a direct cause. Fluoride is a KNOWN endocrine-disruptor. Among its other nasty deeds, it accumulates in the pineal gland which is central to the brain; the pineal gland is the producer of melatonin which governs our sleep cycles. At the levels of fluoride in drinking water commonly required by [evil] US laws, it takes a few decades for the fluoride to accumulate in levels that affect us negatively – thus we ASSume that our troubles are due to “just getting older”. Fluoride also accumulates in the thyroid gland, which affects a lot of other things – such as metabolism (how much of our food is burnt vs stored), reproductive hormones (including infertility), and mental function. When the thyroid gland is compromised for some reason, it affects the dopamine levels in the brain – which in turn affects the decision-making process. In particular, the simple ACT of making a choice, becomes harder. I have experienced this & believe me, it is awful. I can honestly understand how concentration camp inmates would lack the mental ability to simply DECIDE to escape, rebel etc. I have experienced the mental fog, the loss of memory, the lethargy! I am now well – and I want to stay that way, & that includes not drinking water that contains added [industrial] fluoride. Why do you think the dear govt recommends we brush our teeth with toothpaste that contains fluoride? why do they recommend we drink at least 8 tall glasses of tap water a day? and why in Europe is fluoridating water considered drugging a population without their consent – and it’s illegal ?

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  35. Dean (to isaiah64one@yahoo.com)

    Fluoride inhabits the receptor sites on cells for iodine. Thus the effect of fluoride on the brain, energy levels, etc., is rather quick. Fluoride also opens up the blood-brain barrier (like aluminum). Iodine is essential and all cells have receptor sites for it. Bromine, like fluoride, also will displace iodine from receptor sites. Fluoride will weaken bones and joints too. Studies show that fluoride will lower IQ significantly. Governments like fluoride (and bromine). It dulls the population, makes them easy to manipulate, and the people die-off more quickly.

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  36. bert (to isaiah64one@yahoo.com)

    The amount of fluoride in toothpaste is very small compared to daily ingested fluoride in fluoridated water, about 1.1 mg in a very large 1 gram dallop of toothpaste.

    Roughly 2 mg per day is ingested by a person due to water fluoridation practice in much of the US. (So, even if you swallowed your entire toothpaste you use on average in a day, you would consume about as much fluoride as due to water fluoridation.) 2 mg equals just two liters at 1 ppm, or 2.86 liters at 0.7 ppm.

    People in Maine where fluoridation is typically set at 1.2 ppm are typically exposed to about 3 mg Fluoride a day.

    Added fluoride should be avoided for anybody consuming significant amounts of diuretics, such as beer and coffee. That’s why some health conscious beer lovers are watching what they’re drinking; please check out http://ffbeers.com

    It is my belief that risk and damage does occur on the spans of years and decades and that this explains why the US has one of the highest disease rates among developed nations, despite spending more than any other nation on medical care and drugs. Water fluoridation is not written into any federal US laws, but the political agenda to push for it is set in its institutions, and a lot of lobbying dollars and political pressure is exerted by lobby groups and certain robber baron money funded foundations. It is a very 1950′s type of practice, that is outdated now that modern toothpaste is commonly available and just about universally used.

    Although toothpaste F- concentration is very high (1100 ppm w/w), the amount of toothpaste used is very small (between 1/2 to 1 gram typically), and it is used very briefly in the mouth; about 1 minute, and then almost all of that fluoride goes down the bathroom sink. A very small portion, 5% to 10% is absorbed, mostly through the gums, mostly depending on how long you brush. So, the total intake of fluoride by brushing is very small, roughly 0.15 mg per day, in many cases 0.1 mg which is so small it isn’t significant, especially when compared to the exposure of 2 mg per day due to fluoridation.

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  37. Sia (to isaiah64one@yahoo.com)

    Actually, several other countries fluoridate their water, including European countries. The degree to which they do varies, but it must also be noted that water can be NATURALLY fluoridated.

    You have entered the dark world of half cracked conspiracy theories. It’s time to step away from the keyboard.

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  38. rosy (to isaiah64one@yahoo.com)

    you said it all, thank you.

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  39. Luke (to isaiah64one@yahoo.com)

    What??Seriously??Thanks for the heads up! ;)

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  40. Liam Freedom (to isaiah64one@yahoo.com)

    Sia, this is for you -

    Natural elements found in clean water sources like traces of Fluorine (a gas in it’s elemental state with a boiling point of -306.652 °F) are very small and only exist when bound with some other element(s) to change it from a gaseous state to a liquid or solid state of matter. That is fact, not a conspiracy or a theory. I’m guessing you missed chemistry in school. I’d suggest that you step away from the keyboard and go to school. Try to learn what you put into you body (especially if you have children).

    Name: Fluorine
    Symbol: F
    Atomic Number: 9
    Atomic Mass: 18.998404 amu
    Melting Point: -219.62 °C (53.530006 K, -363.31598 °F)
    Boiling Point: -188.14 °C (85.01 K, -306.652 °F)
    Number of Protons/Electrons: 9
    Number of Neutrons: 10
    Classification: Halogen
    Crystal Structure: Cubic
    Density @ 293 K: 1.696 g/cm3
    Color: Greenish
    Date of Discovery: 1886
    Discoverer: Joseph Henri Moissan
    Name Origin: From the Latin word fluo (flow)
    Uses: Refrigerants
    Obtained From: mineral fluorite

    Some other facts you likely missed…

    Iodine -
    Name: Iodine
    Symbol: I
    Atomic Number: 53
    Atomic Mass: 126.90447 amu
    Melting Point: 113.5 °C (386.65 K, 236.3 °F)
    Boiling Point: 184.0 °C (457.15 K, 363.2 °F)
    Number of Protons/Electrons: 53
    Number of Neutrons: 74
    Classification: Halogen
    Crystal Structure: Orthorhombic
    Density @ 293 K: 4.93 g/cm3
    Color: blackish
    Facts
    Date of Discovery: 1811
    Discoverer: Bernard Courtois
    Name Origin: From the Greek word iôdes (violet)
    Uses: required in humans
    Obtained From: sodium and potassium compounds
    Melting Point: 113.5 °C (386.65 K, 236.3 °F)
    Boiling Point: 184.0 °C (457.15 K, 363.2 °F)

    For some background regarding fluoride and the use in public water systems, look into the main industrial wastes from the manufacturing of aluminum. If ALCOA and other corporations can sell industrial waste under a blatantly false claim of benefit for dental health, perhaps you should drink toothpaste, sunscreen, hair coloring, anti-depressive, ADD, and other assorted chemicals with your water. Better yet, let someone else pollute your water to dose you with whatever chemicals they demand you need for your health as they determine they view as health without any chance to opt out.

    Thirsty yet?

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  41. Sallye (to isaiah64one@yahoo.com)

    Is there a way to flush out accumulated flouride?

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  42. Pam P (to Dean)

    This is very true. And you are ingesting bromine with any bread or bun that has “dough conditioner” listed on the package. They started “flourisylic acid” of flouridating my home town in 1954. I am seeing many of my friends and family with tumors and cancers. My vet told me 15 years ago never to give my dogs tap water. Go to FluorideFreeUSA.com
    and find out more about this. http://ffbeers.com My dentist is totally against the forced flouride in our water systems. Our FA comes from the smoke scrapings of a factory in Juarez Mexico. And because the US is running out because we shipped our factories outside the US they are importing China’s FA . When are we going to get people to wake up??

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  43. cheryl (to Dean)

    all he is saying is very true. just do ur research. people dont want to believe this or wake up and change. i really dont understand it. even parents that i try to inform tell me im crazy. seems theres alot of brainwashed zombies already. its ur kids what the heck. dont u care ur feeding them poisens and screwing them up. i just dont understand. so many more need to realize.

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  44. Ms Finley (to Dean)

    So, what should we brush our teeth with? Is there ANY toothpastes out there without flouride? Toms?

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  45. christian (to Ken)

    what about the German purity law?

    you’re thinking of cider, buddy!

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  46. Herb (to )

    Thank You Kal

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  47. Travis (to Sia)

    Actually several developed countries have moved away from fluoridating their water (most notably Canada, Australia, and New Zealand). Reasons vary from cost to health concerns. Also, yes water can be naturally fluoridated, but water can actually have traces of arsenic. That doesn’t mean that we should be adding it to our water.

    Here is an updated list of communities:

    http://fluoridealert.org/content/communities/

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  48. Rock (to Sia)

    Maybe there could conceivably be fluoridation with natural fluoride (which I wouldn’t drink), but in the US, it is added to the water in the form of powder which is often the by-product and remnant from scrubbing filters and smokestacks of fertilizer and aluminum producers and other industries. It is often from China.
    They could try to add pharmaceutical grade fluoride to the US water, but they don’t – it is industrial waste full of toxins and a harmful type of fluoride and also radioactive material ….. So that is a fact, not “the dark world of half cracked conspiracy theories.”

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  49. Liam Freedom (to Sia)

    Natural elements found in clean water sources like traces of Fluorine (a gas in it’s elemental state with a boiling point of -306.652 °F) are very small and only exist when bound with some other element(s) to change it from a gaseous state to a liquid or solid state of matter. That is fact, not a conspiracy or a theory. I’m guessing you missed chemistry in school. I’d suggest that you step away from the keyboard and go to school. Try to learn what you put into you body (especially if you have children).

    Name: Fluorine
    Symbol: F
    Atomic Number: 9
    Atomic Mass: 18.998404 amu
    Melting Point: -219.62 °C (53.530006 K, -363.31598 °F)
    Boiling Point: -188.14 °C (85.01 K, -306.652 °F)
    Number of Protons/Electrons: 9
    Number of Neutrons: 10
    Classification: Halogen
    Crystal Structure: Cubic
    Density @ 293 K: 1.696 g/cm3
    Color: Greenish
    Date of Discovery: 1886
    Discoverer: Joseph Henri Moissan
    Name Origin: From the Latin word fluo (flow)
    Uses: Refrigerants
    Obtained From: mineral fluorite

    Some other facts you likely missed…

    Iodine -
    Name: Iodine
    Symbol: I
    Atomic Number: 53
    Atomic Mass: 126.90447 amu
    Melting Point: 113.5 °C (386.65 K, 236.3 °F)
    Boiling Point: 184.0 °C (457.15 K, 363.2 °F)
    Number of Protons/Electrons: 53
    Number of Neutrons: 74
    Classification: Halogen
    Crystal Structure: Orthorhombic
    Density @ 293 K: 4.93 g/cm3
    Color: blackish
    Facts
    Date of Discovery: 1811
    Discoverer: Bernard Courtois
    Name Origin: From the Greek word iôdes (violet)
    Uses: required in humans
    Obtained From: sodium and potassium compounds
    Melting Point: 113.5 °C (386.65 K, 236.3 °F)
    Boiling Point: 184.0 °C (457.15 K, 363.2 °F)

    For some background regarding fluoride and the use in public water systems, look into the main industrial wastes from the manufacturing of aluminum. If ALCOA and other corporations can sell industrial waste under a blatantly false claim of benefit for dental health, perhaps you should drink toothpaste, sunscreen, hair coloring, anti-depressive, ADD, and other assorted chemicals with your water. Better yet, let someone else pollute your water to dose you with whatever chemicals they demand you need for your health as they determine they view as health without any chance to opt out.

    Thirsty yet?

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  50. Eric (to War on Beer)

    Unfortunately , Beer is regulated by a different branch of the Gov. and not the food and Drug, and not required to put All ingredients in Beer. The Beer Company’s lobby for this, because people dont want to hear, what they are drinking is toxic.

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  51. Mark (to Bob)

    Chuck,
    So only a scientist should be trusted with the truth huh? Every scientist has the the truth and only they do. Right. Joseph Mengela was a scientist. Corportations fund their own studies to get results they want that than serve as a marketing tool. So much of it is fraudelent. To say the “the science supports__________ (fill in the blank) should be taken with a grain of salt. Especially if you are interested in being scientific. The days of saying “the science supports” blah blah blah are near over. Science has become corrupted. You don’t know who to believe anymore because integrity has been eschewed by so many. People are getting smarter and more careful what they believe, especially when corporate profits are part of the equation. Chuck you’re going to have to come up another manipulation. And we will see through that too!

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  52. BLT (to Kregg)

    Speaking of self-righteous… …and snobbish… two paragons if there ever were. Amazing that anyone would actually defend the consumption of known carcinogens when real beer is really available.

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  53. Desiree (to barnzey)

    No need to get your panties in a bunch. She is just informing the public. You can still eat and drink your modified and toxic food/drinks..your body your choice so calm down with your ignorant and idiotic statements of the ingredients of antifreeze vs a plain glass of water

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  54. Mike (to Jim)

    Since when is Roundup not a pesticide? It’s used by almost all non-organic farmers to control insects from eating their crops.
    If it is used for the prevention of insects from eating a crop, that is a pesticide.

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  55. bocomo (to Mike)

    It’s an herbicide

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  56. Bruce (to Mike)

    herbicide, insecticide it really doesn’t matter they are all pesticides

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  57. Shannon (to Mike)

    Herbicides and pesticides/insecticides are two different things, one kills plants and the other kills bugs. Round-up kills plants (herbicide), so farmers do not use it to keep insects from eating their crops. Most farmers will avoid pesticides if at all possible since they also kill the “good” bugs that help their crops.

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  58. jack (to Mike)

    Pesticide is any substance that destroys pests, which includes weeds and insects etc.

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  59. Informed Consumer (to Chris)

    Chris, would you please post your email from Guinnes? Some of us are very interested in hearing what Diageo has to say. And which country’s Guinnes are you asking about, as Guinness is brewed in several. Thanks!

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  60. Ann (to Kyle Jones)

    Not so I am suffering this morning and have done so all night after putting a stout in my casserole. I say this because it’s the first time I have done so and eaten exactly the same as I always do. There is something going on and also I have the same effect with certain wines. I don’t see what you being a dentist has to do with it. I am a psychologist so there !!

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  61. peacefl (to Surfside Jack)

    Be careful that you not slander the person who wrote the article and tell others ” not to pay attention tothe beers”. It appears that indeed she did her homework on this and is 100% legit..

    “First of all, I was able to obtain a baseline list of “legal” additives allowed in beer from the book “Chemicals Additives in Beer” by the Center of Science and Public Interest. This list allowed me to ask specific questions about each beer I investigated. For example – beer sold here in America can contain several of the following ingredients:”

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  62. Spoonalicious (to Jason)

    Corn Syrup in general is harmful. The trace petrol-based herbicides, fungicides, pesticides and chemical fertilizers just make GMO more harmful. Sugar is a disaccharide and is digested as such. Corn Syrup and HFCS are made from a combinations of the monosaccharides glucose and fructose. It is an overabundance of glucose isolated in the bloodstream that causes diabetes and isolated fructose feeds cancer cells.

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  63. Lady424 (to Jason)

    Jason, you need to take off the blinders and do some intense research. There are tests, and more tests that have been done and are still being done, proving that GMO is causing horrible long term damage to our planet and our bodies. When GMOs were approved, there was no long term studies. Now that we have been ingesting this crap for so long, more and more horrible things are coming to light. By hiding our heads in the sand, we are successfully destroying our own species, as well as the world we live in. WAKE UP!!!

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  64. Lady424 (to Jason)

    Jason, It’s not my job to look up things for you but since you seem to be so caught in tunnel vision, you can start here. Then do your own research. You may not give a damn about the future of your children and grandchildren, but I do, as do all the people who are going up against Monsanto. Our freedom to choose has been taken away by closed-minded people like you. ANd the increase in health issues because of it are our of hand. Happy researching. Enjoy your GMOs.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/04/08/10-scientific-studies-proving-gmos-can-be-harmful-to-human-health/

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  65. susan w (to bob tyler)

    Here is some evidence: Simply go to your local outdoor festival where they serve beer. Chances are, the only beers allowed to be sold are a Budweiser owned brand in a plastic cup. Now, take a look at the people walking around with that plastic cup in their hand drinking beer. Look at their bodies. Look at their skin and their faces and their legs and ankles. This is your PROOF that 80% of beer and food manuf or sold in the USA is poison. This extends to our homes: Tilex mold remover, carpet shampoo, lawn fertilizer, pest control sprayed around and inside your home.

    We are being fed and gassed out of existence. The worst part is that this doesnt necessarily kill people on the spot. It is a slow and excruciating drawn out process of obesity and ill health and cancer and organ failure. Other nations do not allow this practice, and speak up and protect their citizens. The USA does not.

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  66. Me oh my (to Jack)

    Right on!

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  67. chris (to R Henry)

    propylene glycol is a type of antifreeze.its used for aircraft to remove ice.

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  68. Jenn (to R Henry)

    If you live in hot states you will have a different ingredient in your antifreeze to surpass the hot temps. On the other hand if you live in colder climates you will have the opposite chemical.

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  69. Buck (to R Henry)

    Propylene glycol IS USED in automobile antifreeze and is typically marketed as environmentally friendly alternative (e.g. Sierra) to Ethylene glycol which is poisonous and tastes sweet leading to a long history of accidental consumption by animals and children. Propylene glycol is much safer and can be found in lip balms, skin creams, hand soaps,…so if you’re afraid of it, be wary.

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  70. John (to susan w)

    I agree, Susan. People at outdoor festivals drinking beer out of plastic are precisely the ones who do not care about any of these health issues. I was one of those people once. Maya Angelou: “when you know better, you do better”. God rest her soul. I would never touch plastic any thing these days, let alone toxic American beer. I started having MSG REACTIONS. It’s sad that it takes someone to get sick before they wake up and realize we are systematically being poisoned. We are literally self-destructing w-all these chemicals WHILST people go about their business happily conveying that GMO IS TMI. (2 much info)

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  71. Eric (to cheryl)

    I would ask all of you to link your sources. Fluoride in tap water is listed as one of the 10 greatest medical innovations of last century. The immediate drop in tooth decay for poor people was undeniable. There is no conspiracy. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation
    Please read some of the references at the bottom of the Wikipedia page. I know some pretty smart people who have bought into this crap so went away and researched it myself. Pseudoscience is one of the worst enemies of the modern world. Let’s here it for the term “peer reviewed”

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  72. junbug20 (to Phil)

    At the beginning of her article, foodbabe states that she receives no endorsements from any company, also you need to do more reading…..

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  73. Rusty (to Eric)

    You are not clear on your point but it looks like you are saying fluoride dropped tooth decay in poor people. You must be a flaming idiot, there is no scientific credibility or evidence ever produced to back up that statement at all. It is full of subjective conjecture in it self alone. Fluoride is an industrial waste toxin and was used by nazies to poison people they were subjecting to internment. Peer review is one of the most corrupted situations in our science paid for and managed by corporations to enhance their profits. The only scientific study referred to in the initial fluoride debates after WW II was some people having less tooth decay in Arizona who drank water from the Colorado River in the 40′s. That had nothing to do with peer review and everything to do with grasping for straws to justify mass poisoning the public water supply to give industrial companies a source to get rid of one of their most toxic wastes. As a result over 80 countries have banned all use of ingestible fluorides. It is idiots like you who are putting everyone in danger and subject to the hidden agendas of corporate profits.

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  74. Enjoy your dead pineal gland (to Eric)

    More like “lets hear it for elitism in medicene”. I shouldnt be forced to drink pineal gland killing garbage to save somebody literally A FEW BUCKS. Get bent.

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  75. Bill (to Liam Freedom)

    This kind of arrogant, defensive response is what turns people off to those who are trying to work for an open, honest presentation of RELEVANT FACTS! Who cares who discovered Flourine? However, do some honest research (not cut and paste) and tell us something useful like : Are Flourine and Flouride the same element? Or: How can we make our tap water pure before we drink/use it? All the blabbering on this site seems to be by half witted, know it alls armed only with opinions and few CITED or SOURCED FACTS to back up the apparently empty claims they are making! Let’s see some FACTS backed up by sources and get over being so “intelligent and informed” and just give us the story in your own words….if you have any!

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  76. Pat (to Ms Finley)

    I finally found a non-flouride toothpaste that I like…Earth Paste by Redmond Trading Co. Check it out at http://www.earthpaste.com.

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  77. letthemeatcake (to Ms Finley)

    If you can’t get Tom’s without fluoride and they do have it with fluoride use baking soda and peroxide.

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  78. Arv Fabian (to Ms Finley)

    I use backing soda, works great, the dentist use it to clean your teeth,

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