You Won’t Believe Where Silly Putty Is Hiding In Your Food

You won’t believe where silly putty is hiding in your food. Find out on the latest episode of Food Babe TV and don’t miss the details below:

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Dimethylpolysiloxane 101 (a.k.a. Silly Putty)

Dimethylpolysiloxane is commonly used in vinegary-smelling silicone caulks, adhesives, and aquarium sealants, a component in silicone grease and other silicone based lubricants, as well as in defoaming agents, mold release agents, damping fluids, heat transfer fluids, polishes, cosmetics, hair conditioners AND IN OUR FOOD!

There have been no major studies conducted on the safety of dimethylpolysiloxane in food by the FDA or the Food Industry since it was approved in 1998, but the food industry is allowed to use it in anything they want (except milk). Chick-fil-A Chicken Sandwiches, McDonalds French Fries, KFC Mash Potatoes and Biscuits, Taco Bell Cinnamon Twists, Five Guys French Fries, Dominos Bread Sticks, and on and on – the list of guilty restaurants is mind-blowing.

Companies Using Dimethylpolysiloxane

Dimethylpolysiloxane Can Contain Formaldehyde

The FDA allows dimethylpolysiloxane to be preserved by several different chemicals that don’t have to be listed on the label either, including formaldehyde! Formaldehyde is one of the most highly toxic substances on earth. It is linked to allergies, brain damage, cancer, and auto-immune disorders. See chart below directly from US Code Of Federal Regulation:


Dimethylpolysiloxane is commonly used as a filler fluid in breast implants, however this substance has started to be phased out due to safety concerns. If this substance is considered to be a hazardous ingredient when it’s placed inside our bodies, it makes you wonder, how can the FDA allow us to eat it?

American Companies Exploiting Us Once Again

When I compared the ingredient list of McDonald’s french fries in the US vs. the UK version, I was floored to witness the drastic differences. Europeans do not use dimethylpolysiloxane. Look closely at the ingredients in McDonald’s french fries below. Do you see how the french fries in the U.K. version are basically just potatoes, vegetable oil, a little sugar and salt? How can McDonald’s make french fries with such an uncomplicated list of ingredients all over Europe, but not over here? Why do McDonald’s french fries in the U.S. have to have an “anti-foaming” agent? Do the brits like extra foam? No, they don’t, Europe actually regulates this ingredient because they know this man-made chemical was never intended to be consumed by humans. This whole time McDonalds has known about this and chooses to continue to serve it’s US citizens silly putty.

McDonalds French Fries Ingredients

A Secret Ingredient In Fountain Drinks

When I drank soft drinks as a teenager, I always wondered how and why fountain drinks tasted better. My friends and I would go on and on about this and say to each other “fountain drinks are the best!” and hit up the local gas station to get our fix. Thank god those days are over.


During my research, I found out that fountain drinks have a totally different formula than their bottled counterparts found on store shelves. Dimethylpolysiloxane is found in Diet Coke, Dr. Pepper, Sprite, Fanta and other countless fountain drinks. The food industry doesn’t want you to know about the differences either. Coca-Cola was sued for being misleading to consumers and not disclosing that Diet Coke has two different artificial sweeteners in the fountain version vs. one in the bottle version. I wonder if there will be another lawsuit regarding this ingredient!? How many people do you think actually know that silly putty is in their Sprite?

Diet Coke Ingredients

We all know drinking soft drinks is not good for us, but does Chipotle, who prides themselves as a pioneer for better quality in the food industry, know they are feeding silly putty to their consumers by serving a wide variety of fountain sodas at their establishments? Chipotle recently phase out GMOs from their restaurant food by next year, but in order to do this, are they planning to remove their Coca-Cola fountain drinks too? I am pretty sure this isn’t part of the original plan. Maybe being associated with silly putty and formaldehyde will finally give Chipotle the nudge to switch over to drinks without GMOs and chemicals. It’s crazy, that even the companies that are trying to make a difference, are still pulling these dirty secret industry tricks in our food right under our noses.

Restaurant Cheap Shortcuts

Many fast food and causal restaurants use a butter substitute product called “Phase Oil”. You may have never heard of this substance, but I can almost guarantee you have eaten it. My husband first introduced it to me, when he said his cook at his fraternity house used it to cook all of their meals. (College kids, listen up!). Needless to say it was horrifying finding this out after looking up the ingredients.

Ingredients in Phase Oil: Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Salt, Soy Lecithin, Natural and Artificial Flavor, Beta Carotene, TBHQ, Citric Acid, Dimethylpolysiloxane

When I saw “Phase Oil” on this list of ingredients Dominos uses, I called them up to ask why. The headquarters wouldn’t tell me and asked me to leave an inquiry. I ain’t got time for that, so I went straight to the source and visited a local Dominos to ask. I found out Dominos uses Phase Oil in their Cheesy Bread Sticks, instead of real butter – yum!


It’s important to note, most restaurants don’t use this to intentionally harm us, they use it to cut costs. And this point hits the nail on the head. Using dimethylpolysiloxane is another cheap industry ingredient to make big profits for the food industry and does nothing to keep our health in check (especially with formaldehyde as a potential preservative!).

How many more people have to die from disease and how much more are we going to pay as a nation for health care until the FDA wakes up and starts regulating our food?

Don’t let the food industry trick you with this rubbery substance. Next time you see your family or friends eating and drinking the popular products discussed in this post and video – ask them:

“Do You Eat Silly Putty?”

Many of the fast food restaurants are required to post their ingredients online. Check em’ before you eat out. And remember to ask your server what oil your food is being cooked in and request it be cooked dry, with coconut oil (if they have it), 100% olive oil, or real butter.

Please spread this information and share this video… no one should be eating silly putty!

Till next time…

Food Babe

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332 Responses to “You Won’t Believe Where Silly Putty Is Hiding In Your Food”


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  2. Laurie (to ThisMakesMeLaugh)

    I can’t help but wonder WHY there would be anything but potatoes and oil in fries. Studies aside, why are there even chemicals at all?

  3. Kay (to Stephen)

    Who cares the percentage in the silly putty??? What percentage is in food???????

  4. Odegra (to Laurie)

    Because they aren’t making fries just for you or your family. They are making a consistent and reproducible product on a very large scale. Make your own fries. How is it a shock to find preservatives and modifiers in fast food. If you are subsisting off of fast-food and indulgent restaurant meals you have other problems. These articles are ridiculous soap-boxing.

  5. Bob w (to Laurie)

    This product keeps the hot oil from foaming over and burning someone. It is used at a very very low percent. Without it the oil the fries are cooked in would bubble uncontrollably

  6. David (to Laurie)


    the problem with this article is that it makes it sound as if there AREN’T chemicals in other things. Formaldehyde, for instance, is present in apples. If this author is so scared, why doesn’t she tell everyone to stop eating apples?

    The reality is that “chemicals” is just a name we invented for substances that already exist. Some chemicals are indeed created by man, but many others are naturally occurring. There are chemicals in everything you eat.

    This article is just fear-mongering. There have been dozens of studies published on this compound, and it has been found to be completely innocuous at the dosage which you’d be exposed to.

    WHO paper, detailing dozens of studies:

    Furthermore, this compound has been widely used in anti-flatulence medication since the 1950s. There is no correlation between anti-flatulence medication and any of the health symptoms that this author tries to link dimethyl to.

  7. Mary Ellen (to Odegra)

    I, personally, don’t eat fast food. However, it would be nice to feel that I could occasionally have a meal at a family restaurant without ingesting toxins. Why do you make this leap to the far end of the spectrum in assuming one is “subsisting off of fast food” to be disturbed by the use of these chemicals in ANY food? What is a tolerable amount for you to ingest and why should that matter to anyone else? Have you ever heard the term “body burden”? I suggest you familiarize yourself with how the body aggregates some toxins and, we really DON’T know the interactions and how they are stored in our cells. I DO cook from home about 97% of the time. However, I would like to enjoy some meals out occasionally without feeling like I’m being poisoned. Oh, and this is NOT limited to fast foods. I avoid polyunsaturated oils, especially since they are GMO (soy, corn, canola are 85%-95% GMO). So, I assumed that Italian restaurants would use pure olive oil for everything except deep frying. When I began asking, I was shocked at how many expensive restaurants were using cheap “blends” of olive oil mixed with soy, corn, or canola (“vegetable oil” is one of those three or a blend). If these same restaurants can provide cleaner versions of their products in other countries that don’t tolerate this nonsense, then we must demand it here, too. Why on earth would you NOT want a cleaner version?

  8. Tom Keating (to Alex)

    You aren`t hearing much of anything if you say that.

  9. Simone (to Mary Ellen)

    It is the question of how much are you willing to pay for it. How much are you willing to pay extra for a different way of making the hot oil less dangerous for the people who work with it. I don’t want to defend McDonald’s at all (I don’t eaat there and fries have never been my thing in general), but I am afraid that a solution is not as simple as “take this for that.”

  10. Willem (to David)

    You are right, chemicals is just a name for substances that exist. But I don’t agree that there isn’t any problem in them being used in other things than they are naturally present in… Which is exactly why people like Foodbabe have a problem with it, I am sure.
    Thing is, when a substance is a natural part of a food, that food usually contains everything that is needed for the body to deal with it. When “us humans” start to act like God and “alter” foods, we disrupt that natural balance which causes substances to not have their needed “counterparts”. In those cases, we only have the chemical and its bad effects. Just because the manufacturer wants to make more money by presenting us with food that looks, smells and tastes “better” – or whatever we are conditioned to think is how it should be.
    This article is not fear-mongering. It is yet another appeal to people to THINK about what they put in their body instead of just following and trusting the big money making corporations. Because those don’t act in OUR best interest but in THEIRS.
    Oh, and your statement that this compound has been widely used in medication makes it all the more unwanted because if there is one industry that screws with your health, it is the medical industry… Which makes CUSTOMERS and not cures.

    Yes, there are chemicals in a lot of natural food. But it is still unhealthy to just eat a scoop of, say, chlorine, fluoride, magnesium or any other “naturally” ocurring substance. It is all about dosage and most of all, the whole package. Added stuff disrupts the foods balance and will eventually cause problems for the complex system that is a human body.

  11. D.arro (to David)

    While apples contain methanol, which breaks down to formic acid & formaldehyde, they also contain ethanol (which happens to be the natural cure for methanol poisoning, preventing one from going blind). Nature has been well designed as so not to harm us, but do man-made products with methanol (e.g. aspartame) contain this natural antidote? No. Don’t be so short-sighted as to not step back and look at the full picture of why something is a problem.

  12. DeeJay (to David)

    Not just flatulence meds; also OTC medication for babies suffering from colic. Which most parents would not give routinely, but when your kid is on the 4th of 5th month of so-called 3 month colic, Desperation Happens. Lack of sleep is also a dangerous thing. Foaming, bubbling…yup.

  13. Christina (to David)

    Part of the issue is the way these things are studied. Are they taking into consideration that people are not getting this minimal dose if they are eating these foods and other processed foods on a regular basis? Also, they are not looking at the consumption of multiple chemicals being consumed together for an extended period of time. There is a difference between natural occurring ingredients and man- made ones. And, if you are comfortable eating the “safe levels” of all of the things the FDA seems as “safe” go ahead, but I believe it is ignorance to believe that ingesting things that are not natural to our body does catch up with us. Unfortunately I see that people use the excuse of “safe levels” to justify behavior that they do not want to change. Even the WHO has come out saying that a large percentage of disease in our world is related to environmental factors – including the chemicals in our food.

  14. Michael (to David)

    If this chemical has a beneficial aspect (e.g. It keeps the oil from bubbling), then why is it not used in Europe? Does the oil not bubble there? The fact remains that American fast food contains far more chemicals, many of them quite harmful, and the corporations that produce the food are not being forthcoming about why these ingredients are there. We should be thankful that this site exists to inform us about this.

    I have a difficult time even understanding why anyone would question it at all, or try to find faults with its conclusions. This ingredient doesn’t need to be there, so why is it? Could it be that we Americans are simply filters for the chemical industry? Is this the old adage that the solution to pollution is dilution? Well I, for one, don’t want to be a sieve for industrial waste. I am glad that this courageous and well researched site informs me when a popular product or brand attempts to do so.

    Frankly I fail to see the motivation to remain ignorant. I also find the attempt to convince others that this ingredient is necessary or beneficial highly suspect.

  15. David (to Willem)

    Hi Willem,

    It isn’t acting like “God” to add chemicals–nor is it anything new. Humans have been modifying and enhancing and selectively breeding their food for thousands of years.

    It is why we’re all alive to have this conversation right now.

    If not for the regular addition of nitrogen to crops, the Earth would have to have 50% of non-ice land devoted to crops. Where would the people live? Where would the trees and nature be?

    To support the population of this planet, we do have to come up with creative ways to grow food and get food. It isn’t acting like “God”–it’s just basic human nature to attempt to survive and thrive.

    This article is fear-mongering, because the writer uses a misleading article. No one is actually eating silly putty. Silly putty is not just a tiny amount of a chemical–it is a specific application of boric acid to dimethyl silicone.

    The reality is you can buy and a lot of food that doesn’t have dimethyl silicone. If you’re eating at McDonalds, and you read this website, odds are you don’t have the money to buy real food. That is part of what I object to; this writer writing for a higher-income audience is basically just criticizing the poor. What upper middle class family that is concerned with food safety goes to McDonalds??

    If you’re poor, you understand the reality. People who aren’t poor get to eat real food, because they have more money. People who are poor get to eat enhanced and treated foods, because they don’t have money, but still need to consume x calories a day or die.

    In that light, I think this type of shoddy writing (where the author conflates information, keeps out important information like safety studies, and misrepresents unlikely coorelational relationships as causal) is really irresponsible, and we have to ask ourselves what good or practical value is she bringing? None. She’s just giving people who are anxious about their food another outlet.

  16. Willem (to David)

    I am sorry David, but I don’t agree with what you are saying. Or actually I am not sorry. Sorry ’bout that. Oh wait…. Doing it again…
    So I don’t understand because I am not poor. And you are working for some governement agency that allows you to know exactly who I am and how my finances are? Not? Psychic then? Well, you can’t be because then you would know how wrong that assumption is.

    You are stuck in the same program that a lot of poor people seem to be. Most of that is because of what we are tought to think – for a big part by those same big companies such as the golden arched one we are talking about here. If poor people have money to buy food at McDonalds, they have money to buy decent food. It is just a matter of choices. Sure, if you spend your last dime on a happy meal, it is pretty clear you won’t have money for real food. And the funny thing is: if you keep buying and eating junk, you are going to keep feeling like junk. Chances are that you will then never have the actual energy to fight your way out of poverty so you stay poor and keep buying and eating junk.

    There are also a lot of people with little recources that DO make the choice to buy real food. The fairytale that you can only make healthy choices if you have money is the biggest nonsense out there. Really. And I DO know what I am talking about. Yes, a lot of good food is more expensive than the junk you can get. But if you eat the right things, you will need less than with junk because your body actually gets what it needs. So with the same amount of money you buy less in amount but WAY more in nutritional value.
    People who say they can’t afford healthy food simply don’t want to or know how to make the choice to change. It is not impossible, they only THINK so for whatever reason. And a lot of those simply don’t want to let go of their comfortable way of doing things. Well, if you keep doing what you always did, you are going to get what you always got. Simple as that.

    The foodbabe doesn’t target people with “the wealth to make healthy choices”. No, the ones who are targetet are the people that want to think about what they consume and not just take what the money makers want us to consume.

    You know, when I see your remark about “food problems” and “the need for creative solutions” I really have to surpress a ROFL. No one, and I mean no person on this planet, can convince me there is a shortage in food recources. If that were so, how is it possible that millions of pounds of food are thrown away each and every single day? Sure, there are loads of people that have nothing to eat, but that has nothing to do with shortage and more to do with distribution and the way “our” system works. Because the “system” is that food is where money can be made. REALLY poor people, like the starving kids in Africa you see on TV, they don’t have any money, so why would any food supplier go there?

    The “creative solutions” you are talking about are to keep the current balance in money and power, not to keep us healthy or help the poor. A little while ago there was a presentation of the first hamburger made from synthetically grown beef. It was also stated there that this is “nescessary” because of food scarceness that will come. Well, if man stops plundering recources and raping nature with bio-industries for the sake of his own greed, all of those creative solutions would not be nescessary at all. It really is possible to live in a matter in which you produce and take what you actually need instead of what makes you money or some advertisement tells you to buy.

    People have their own responsability. This article gives information about food that a lot of people put in their mouthes. People should know what they consume. If people start feeling anxious after reading something like this, they should ask theirselves WHY. It is not irrisponsible, it is the only way facts and knowledge like this gets out there because governements, multinationals and health officials sure won’t tell anyone.

    You know, I live by something I learned over time. You can’t completely control what happens to you. A lot of it you can, but not all. But you CAN control how you deal with it. That is a form of taking control of your own life and taking your own responsability. Many people are not ready to do that because it is so much easier to point at someone and say it’s their fault. You decide in which group you fit but to me it seems like you are one of the latter. For all the others, that want to know so they can act, articles like these are interesting information.

  17. pete wilkinson (to David)

    Why are you reading foodbabe?

  18. barb (to David)

    People make choices but it’s hard to change if you grew up like that. I once saw an overweight woman from subsidized housing take a taxi to McD’s. And it was only 4 blocks away. They have a fresh fruit and veggies program in some schools and I think this will do more good to change kids eating habits.

  19. Sheri Scumwanker (to David)

    If you *truly* believe that being a poor person — you are unable to afford healthy, wholesome foods, then you will never be able to afford it. Simple as that.

    I manage to buy all organic/non-GMO foods with my food stamps WITHOUT ever once going over my food stamp budget/allowance. I am a person to do RESEARCH on what foods are high in pesticides, unnecessary chemicals, and GMOs. I do not fall for marketing gimmicks and tricks often used by the ‘food’ industry. I downloaded the app BUYCOTT so I can scan food products before buying them and properly avoid companies that donate money against my knowing what is in my food.

    Don’t buy the extra pair of sweat shop Nikes, or that $300 smartphone you don’t really need anyways. Most people say they can’t afford stuff, yet they have $100 cell phone bills. This is absurd. My phone bill is $20 a month. I’ve got a smartphone like everyone else (it was free from a friend), and I’ve got unlimited Interwebz and texting with 500 minutes. That’s all I really need. So, people are living artificially above their means and meanwhile are making excuses to not eat right because they don’t want to change their habits. Well, that’s their problem and their bodies are going to degrade and we’ll see over time — thanks to natural selection — who will be the winners and the losers in the end.

  20. david (to Willem)

    You’ve completely misread my comment, both the point and the intent, to the extent that I’m not sure we can make any more headway. You’ve stated your case; I’ve stated mine, we’ll let the buyers make the final decision.


  21. Jade (to Willem)

    Feels real good to read your long post. I think the same way, and do my best to act so. It’s about being aware and coherent, about making lucid choices, opening our eyes, being responsable and sharing real information to those who are ready to take a further step to health and freedom. Was a pleasure :-)

  22. David (to pete wilkinson)

    I read a lot of news, in the hopes of learning new things. Sometimes, I find a misleading or inaccurate article, and when I do, I often will post the verified data that shows the fault.

    In this case, there are two errors;
    1. The suggestion that no studies were ever done when there are actually hundreds of studies. My earlier link points you to the WHO summary, but you can easily use that summary to actually find and even reproduce the studies to date.

    2. The substance is not silly putty, which can also be proved by simply reading the patent filing for Silly Putty, which lists all chemicals used to make it.

  23. David (to D.arro)

    Please, don’t be so short-sighted as to not do 5 seconds of research!

    Your worries in regards aspartame are a well-known hoax. Aspartame has dozens of published studies, which have undergone peer review from scientists in nations all over the world, and not one incidence of toxicity has ever been found.

  24. Megan (to D.arro)

    Ethanol is the treatment for methanol poisoning, but only because the enzyme which helps metabolize both alcohols has a greater affinity for ethanol. You flood a person’s system with ethanol so that there are no enzymes left to catalyze the methanol reaction and methanol has a chance to be filtered out of the blood intact. Such small quantities of both, as in apples, wouldn’t apply to that situation.

  25. David (to Christina)

    Christina, what is the difference from so-called man-made to so-called natural? Scientists use the same procedures and processes in the “natural” world to create chemicals.

    I’m comfortable eating the “safe” levels of anything. Even your “natural” food is dangerous if consumed without moderation–tobacco is very natural, but will kill you. Cyanide is very natural, and will kill you. Kale is very natural, but too much may give you a thyroid condition.

    Kale is not studied by the FDA, although we do know that too much of it can cause thyroid problems. Where is the expose from Food Babe? I’m being facetious; kale doesn’t need an expose, nor does so-called silly putty in food. People just need to use common sense and eat in moderation.

    No one is dying from eating very small amounts of french fries. French fries aren’t healthy–that is why we eat so few of them if we want to be healthy. This isn’t some new discovery, but rather common knowledge that is held by almost every person on Earth. If you can find me 1,000 people who believe that french fries are a health food, I’ll rescind my criticism of scare-mongering around something that we’re all already aware of.

  26. Garrett ( to Christina ) (to Christina)

    I agree, I’m sorry it seems so (slap in the face) obvious to me, that any thing that’s MAN-MADE these days had money and greed behind it!!!! Hell, hasn’t everybody seen that documentary ” SuperSizeMe “…. If you think that fast food wont kill you in a few months of eating nothing but that everyday, be my guest Mr. Engineered scientist , who developed the ingredients that make this crap last for months with out going bad. You think that maybe your body doesn’t know what to do with these strange chemicals and it sets them to the side and attracts the natural/minimal cancer cells in your body and go to war. And there you have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!CANCER..SUPERSIZED!!!!! Big Pharma. has a trillion dollar grip on this country and more people need to see and recognize it.. There is natural cures and a lot of those cures come from what God put here for us to ingest not MAN-MADE!!! I would sure have liked to live back before the industrial world—–RAT RACE…

  27. David (to Sheri Scumwanker)

    Sheri that is a really horrible comment. I’m not poor, so I don’t have the problem you’re implying, but I also know that poor people aren’t spending $300 on smartphones and living beyond their means.

    The sheer number of studies and in-depth long-term analysis on how the poor *really* live reveals the truth; what you’re doing is parroting the gospel of wealth, that the rich/well-to-do are somehow morally superior and deserve longer lives and more happiness.

    It’s the type of ignorance and absurd rhetorical argument that I expect from someone who follows FoodBabe–who, herself, seems unable to interpret and read scientific data and instead goes off rhetorical arguments based completely outside of reality and data–so I’m not sure why I’m surprised by how insulting, offensive, and caricaturized your description of the poor is.

  28. Jerry (to David)

    What makes scopes
    an authority on anything. It is just 2 people with an agenda. You need to look at your sources.
    And by the way I do agree with you.

  29. David (to Jerry)

    Glad you agree, Jerry!

    As to snopes: that is merely one place the person can go.

    I didn’t assume that they’d be willing/interested to read the hundreds of pages of medical studies I’ve read, so I didn’t post those, but it’d be very easy for them to read those studies! All they’d have to do is google ‘aspartame medical studies’ to find thousands of pages of peer-reviewed papers and studies.

    In general, if I encounter something that sounds odd or surprising, I first look it up on a site like snopes, because they typically provide citations and references to published works.

    Then, I’ll go and read the published sources; when looking at medical and scientific papers, I look for:
    – methodology (how the experiment was conducted)
    – who published it?
    – what was the critical reception?
    – do any notable scientists have an objection?

    Of course, Snopes *could* have an agenda; that is why I verify the information in every case. Thanks for being concerned about due diligence!

  30. Jeremy (to Bob w)

    Bob, so what keeps the oil from bubbling over and burning UK fry cooks?

  31. charmaine (to Jeremy)

    well to those who asked the question …..what do we use instead to keep the fryers from bubbling up ??? what did they use years ago???? Nothing… deeper fryers would help as well as less oil.. Any Good cook or Chief would figure that out… FROM along line of chefs in my family… in Hi tech they use it in the scrubbers for circuit boards… and is a dangerous chemical..

  32. Ian B (to Kay)

    Fortunately very low. The amount used in commercial fry oils is measured in parts per billion (though up to 250ppm is allowed). Since this stuff is also a key component of OTC anti-gas medicine (Gas-X), the amounts in fry oil are negligible, and they keep the vitamin E (good stuff!) in the oil from breaking down.

  33. rodt3 (to David)

    yeah, this seems an overreaction with no science backing it up.


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